Saturday, January 25, 2020

[Question Repost] Undead Flame vs Undying Flame

"We need to know of Undead Flame that Khajist casted and Undying Flame the Cure Elim used are exactly the same or have truly have a variation"
"[Reinforce Armor],[Lesser Strength],[Undead Flame],[Shield Wall]." He cast buff after buff on the Skeletal Dragon. Now the Skeletal Dragon’s bony body was sturdier, stronger, and wreathed in life-draining black fire. "[Reinforce Armor], [Shield Wall], [Protection Energy - Negative]." Narberal layered defensive spells on herself as well. Once both sides had finished buffing themselves, it was as if a bell had gone off and the two of them went at it again.....The Skeletal Dragon’s forepaw swiped over the crouching Narberal. Though it missed her with its kick, the black flames wreathing its limbs washed over Narberal. However, she resisted them with the [Protection Energy - Negative] spell, and the black flames vanished without a trace.
[V2]
"[Triplet Magic Undying Flame]." As that fifth-tier spell took effect, Cure Elim's hooked claws and fangs blazed with bluish-white flame. This was a spell that added negative energy and fire damage.
[V14]
Maybe I'm retarded (which I am) but the flames are described in different colors, the spells have different Engrish names, Cure Elim had to use Triplet on his to get it on multiple parts of his body, and Nabe nullified Khajiits with just Negative Energy protection while in a mode where she coudl only use up to Tie 3 spells. Ainz comments that he could only see Cure Elim use his spell because he couldn't add fire to his natural weapons in any other way if he was theoretically only able to use Necromancy type spells.
Now certainly, the Pearl of Death could have cast Khajiit's spell even when drained as it appears to have daily use spells, and theoretically fifth tier spells are nto beyond it if it has the same level as in the WN, IE a Level 40+ item, but given Narberal's own inability to describe the value ofthe Pearl to Ainz, it doesn't appear Khajiit used those spells against her, so she only knew Khajiit was holding onto it tightly the whole time they fought and bragged about it.
"It seems to be something which the inferior lifeform (flatworm) I fought trea- sured deeply. However, I do not know what effects it has …" "Is that so?" Narberal the NPC knew far fewer spells than Ainz, and most of them were combat spells. This was why she could not appraise its value.
[V2]
And so if you compare the two japanse names, there is a difference:
kanji (official Engrish name)
死者の炎(Andeddo Furaimu)
不死之炎 (Andiigu Furaimu).
The difference in kanji is basically the first one is Flames of the dead, the other is Flames of the undead. Don't ask me why Maru choose those Engrish names. He isn't exactly the best Engrish name chooser (looks at Eat Untidy).
 
 
IE Undying Flame goes on natural weapons while Undead Flame counts more like an AoE aura, Undying Flame does Negative Energy and FLame while Undead Flame does Negative Energy only.

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