Overlord randos

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Random Metal Gear Nonsense

TLDR: It's a slippery slope, but Big Boss losing sight of the good parts of war iafter all the trauma is what separates him as the villain from Venom/Kaz(not using child soldiers as fodder), Gray Fox(bonds formed in war), and say Ocelot("You're Pretty Good" - recognitiion of talent/skill = respect for a fellow soldier based on pure merit). Contextually in-game it's not portrayed as sinister. But in terms of the timeline it is as Venom goes on to become the villain in Metal Gear 1 and Outer Heaven, showing Diamond Dogs inevitably twists and warps to some extent, at least from the global narrative Solid Snake is fed. Metal Gear 1 is pretty light on narrative compared to Metal Gear 2 and Zanzibarland which is spiritually closest to Metal Gear Solid 1 in story and atmosphere, but MG 1 doesn't set up Big Boss(Venom) in person as a bad guy, closer to anOcelot than say a Skull Face. When you face Big Boss(venom) in Metal Gear 1 he reveals the betrayal or ties between Big Boss and the two organizations of Outer Heaven and Foxhound yet praises Solid Snake for being ultimate hero man but faces you determined to at least go down together: "You're pretty good, but I am too". But in Metal Gear 2 Big Boss(Naked) is far less 'heroic' , accepting war twists people and feeding that addiction by using Private Militarity Organizations as a way to belong ala MSF, Diamond Dogs, Outer Heaven and so on. It is a less hopeful variant of the Boss's speech, because he sees the loser being 'liberated' from consuming nature of war, effectively no living solider stops fighting and it's lost meaning and is done for its own sake Venom Snake is the "You're Pretty Good" side of Big Boss's legacy. Effectively it's the nihilism of war economies Metal Gear descends into. As Big Boss(Naked) puts it, the nightmares of war never go away and he treats Solid trying to overcome the nightmare as being 'childish' because a mercenary should accept it all and just crave war giving them purpose effectively embracing their existence as just predators, Zanzibarland being a preserve to give a Predator's existence meaning by enable them to justify their existence via conflict. Big Boss(naked) brags about making child soldiers, former victims of war into future soldiers, turning prey into predators. (this is at odds with how Venom was toward his own child soldiers). To Big Boss(naked), a cycle of hate and conflict is fine because it creates a cycle of purpose, soldiers will never lose their purpose or the satisfaction of war, never lose the place they belong. A soldier or predator in peacetime is only baggage, basically in Big Boss's belief. The battlefield is a place where "we are doomed to remain" , because even if it's hell, familiarity breeds comfort, never ending conflict creates never ending purpose to at least survive conflict or 'win'. It's Solid Snake who declares you don't have to live out the entirety of your life on the battlefield and can accept life instead. But Big Boss mocks solid for being unarmed. Here you see Solid quote Big Boss(Naked) "Never give up. Fight until the end. Always believe you will succeed, even when odds are against youl. " If you read that cynically, it's effectively "You're just a tool, so fight until you break. Don't think about failing or negative consequences. " Gray Fox's life shows you the tragic way to embrace that, choosing to die in the only place you belong by not just giving up on war. But ti's Snake who decides to win so he can then leave the battlefield: war isn't his "raison detre". Big Boss ends up burning a life screaming "I'ts Not Over Yet" hauntingly. That's why in Metal Gear 4 /Big Boss saying Solid doesn't have to fight and can just live is impactful. Basically "It's Over", the antithesis of the many men who ground themself to death against you, the Player. Solid Snake gets traumatized from conflict after conflict, but especially after Metal Gear 2 because Big Boss was a father figure to him as well as clone blueprint non sense. Snake brings up though after all the betrayal he finds it hard to open up or trust anyone in Metal Gear Solid, especially after failing to get Gray Fox to come to his senses, someone he calls one of his two only friends, someone who everyone looked up to and respected for military prowess. But as Gray Fox dies, he tells you why he decided to side with Big Boss(Naked):he owed his life to him twice over., once from slave labor another from torture. This is the tragic side of Big Boss(Naked)'s belief, because Gray Fox admits he doesn't like war but there isn't another meaningful way he can picture his life, he can't live 'normally'. Basically no matter how awful it was, being part of a unit meant you had somewhere to belong to. THAT distinction between Gray Fox and Big Boss(Naked) is what separates Big Boss N and Big Boss V: Big Boss(naked) doesn't see the traces of good in war anymore. No matter how bad war is though, you form bonds with people on 'your side' (it's well documented many former military personnel in the US at least miss the service because super organism structure of a Unit gives context and a feeling of belonging that we display as social animals; and once you leave it, the civilian world is much less cohesive and connected, so some break up PTSD into Traumatic Stress Disorder and Social Anxiety Disorder because not everyone suffers from the same post service issues). Gray Fox is tragic though because he was 'born and will die' on the battlefield, because he was dependent on war to give some meaning to his existence, to give him purpose, or bonds: "making people happy.... is something I could never do" - Gray Fox . Despite Gray Foxes dependency on war, in the end he betrayed Big Boss(Naked) by being the anonymous 'fan' on Solid's radio. Gray Fox was trapped in the nihilism of Big Boss, but despite it all, the bond he had with Solid, that was more than just a military allegiance. It was a fondness you form from mutual respect, trust, and similarity. The only tangible links/friends Solid has are people he served with and he basically had to kill one and then the man he was serving under. You can interpret it different ways but Solid Snake seems shaken up by Big Boss so much because in Metal Gear 2, his cynicism and acceptance of war for war's sake can't help but ring true to him. But War isn't so overtly evil or devoid of meaning as Big Boss(Naked) let on: in the Gray Fox was trapped in it but there was something real, something human between Gray Fox and Solid Snake beyond just loyalty or professionalism. Gray Fox wouldn't have helped Solid by being his 'radio fan' if it there wasn't. Big Boss(Venom) shows you another side of war, the mutual respect of results, skill, and in general the sportsmanship of it all. You see this idea echoed by how Naked Snake led MSF on the frontlines and Venom led Diamond Dogs, men who led and didnt just wield authority. 'Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ' is an adage because it's true. When people truly admire someone, its's when they strive to live by their example. To Big Boss(Naked) after Ground Zeroes and the US betraying the boss, he lost sight of this. Big Boss(venom) didn't and it's largely pre Ground Zeroes Big Boss and Venom that inspired the cult of personality Big Boss(Naked) takes advantage of .

Volume 15/16 Predictions

After V12, I'm not sure Maru will even describe most of the trip. Given Abelion's proximity to the Forest however, he'll probably just start it there where he ends up bringing the twins and elf maids as 'V11 Zenberu's' to find Elf friends, because Ainz probably didn't explore it in his offscreen time, so we can see Carne Village 2.0 being raided and assaulted by big bad Theocracy for slaves for 400 pages, and other Satoru or meta reasons instead to only spend 10 pages on Elf King's screen time where Ainz just Instant Death murders him from PU since he's a creeper and 30 pages of stumbling on Zesshi trying to flirt with Aura because she's dumb and doesn't have enough Thot(Ordinary) levels to tell a cross dresser's gender.

It ends on an Epilogue where the Draconic Kingdom calls in it's good will for supporting Re Estize's destruction with an envoy requesting aid, either because the Theocray calls off support due to V15's conclusion or the Theocracy's aid wasn't good enough and so they go to Plan B, originally the Beg Empire for help but since Vassal state, go to Empire's Ruler state for help. That or Draudillion or her nation recognize Ainz as a Dragon Lord tier creature and anyone who has an idea how strong a One Man Army Buster is would instantly side with them over a nation (just a few million) weaklings of a weak race.  Or Draudillion heard of Ainz providing aid for Roble against the Demihuman invasion so she decided to support the regional missive to condemn Re-Estize because they dont act outsiide their borders much at all, the humanitarian act of aiding a devastated nation damaged by demihumans reasonated with her nation's plight, and because Ainz already beat Re Estize once/Saved Roble pretty much alone.

```Explain this to him about maru backtracking on NPC Data Storage```

```Explain this to him about maru backtracking on NPC Data Storage```

 

Maru retcons stuff though? It was one of many ways Maru tried to "balance" matters. You could call it backtracking but Maru admitted to purposely lowering YGGDRASIL cheese at least a bit and increasing New World's potential. This manifested in various ways of course.

Even so, Vassal NPCs are unregulated to our knowledge; the 'infinite' NPC backtrack just places a hard limit on Level 90+ beings.

 

WN

NW has no hope to ever go against AOG

LN

If everyone and everything NW united, AOG could theoretically be stopped

 

WN

PDL was supposedly one of the only DLs left

LN

DLs are slightly more common (still a critically endangered species)

 

WN

New World is pretty weak

LN

NW got buffed, just a bit (eg Zaryusu, Fluder, etc)

 

WN

IIRC Ainz was said to be able to face two Level 100 NPCs in a standard fight

LN

Ainz stands no chance against two Level 100s in a standard fight

 

WN

World Champion OP

LN

World Champion got nerfed

 

WN

Only two Godkin

LN

Maru added super Godkin Zesshi

 

WN

Brain was 'peak ' humanity

LN

Brain surpassed humanity an became a hero without becoming a Vampire

 

 

That's not exhaustive but you get the idea (I hope)

From a writing standpoint it's meant to make Players more 'special' beyond their Super Tier, Event only abiltiies, and Player exclusive classes, as well as their personal Gear.

[Response]```Oh lore master Ziggy, please answer my humble question; is there an afterlife in Overlord?```

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```Oh lore master Ziggy, please answer my humble question; is there an afterlife in Overlord?```

TL:DR We know once you die you don't just disappear immediately. We don't know if Fragmentation of your Self (Body, Spirit, Soul, Lifeforce,etc) is the 'afterlife', being absorbed by something else, or free standing souls are the end result. If Maru bothered to explain more we could probably nail it down.

 

 Not in the traditional Western  models of 'good place' 'gay place'  or 'bad place'. Clearly there is existence after death (NW True Vampires prove corporeal afterlife exists despite losing your 'life force'), as in momentarily following death one still retains their ego to an extent (Neia, Zaryusu) but you lose it as time passes being absorbed into something (by what is up for debate, the WORLD, "Gods", the "Dragon Emperor" depending on some theories or ????) supposedly. As described though, an aspect of people (some differentiate this from the Soul as Spirit) linger on in the world but mainly it's negative emotions and malice that binds them, from tainting the world or objects due to their bodies being neglected, some terrible death, or so on. We have yet to see Ghosts or lingering wills that aren't disembodied engines of True Negative Energy (Undead Genesis Energy / land corruption / item cursing). Contextually, you could argue these are two different forms of afterlife since the clear distinction in awareness possessed in either state. It's insinuated whatever these 'Spirit' existences are can persist but why is unknown or how long. We'd need resurrection experiments carried out to really understand further or get an info dump about someone well versed in the Pollution aspects of the world and Souls to understand what's going on better. Like if you rez, does that emotional taint to the world just POOF since you get put back together? Or does it persist since it's taken on anew form (using the dismemberment mincemeat rules)? The giant Katze fog.... being??? is part of that puzzle too, as is Undead Genesis in general.  

 

For example Slaine's burial practices differ somewhat to other nations here in the West and Center, so as an older nation they may possess a clearer understanding of how things related to this work if it hasn't been retconned(or Maru forgets). Cure Elim's a special case, but you can get Soul Jarred at least but how cognizant you are at that point is up for discussion. Basically how much of you is your Soul and how much of you is your spirit? Similarly all Players are effectively in foreign bodies but we still consider that 'them', even in Ainz's special case. In either transplant case, there didn't appear to be complications related to time, so your self can exist outside of it's vessel at least. You need more research to say more, like how does a naturally born living creature get a soul? Do Dragon Lords even operate like biological creatures? Do undead operate similarly or differently? Clearly ego alone and being undead doesn't let you use Wild Magic properly but was that due to just a difference in body or whatever 'warping' does to you once you become undead as Maru described it? You'd also need to clarify where the Soul ends and your ego begins as Souls alone supposedly start off with no ego and you lose it slowly if you lack a vessel.  For example do you just get a blank floating soul upon birth or do you get splintered pieces from your parents upon fertilization (once a vessel is created)? Ainz's undead seem to 'anchor' given sufficient data and vessel correspondnce, but is that because of the body or residual ambient soul just being near the body ala Dark Souls bloodstain? Basically there is lacking details about what even happens to ambient souls (fade away, absorbed by environment, absorbed by nearby creatures ). Another mystery is where soul, body, and/or spirit end and begin or if the ego is even part of these, an amalgam, or an additional piece.

Now That's What I Call It's Just D&D, Herne Balor Volume 57

Damage Types

Different attacks, damaging spells, and other harmful effects deal different types of damage. Damage types have no rules of their own, but other rules, such as damage resistance, rely on the types. The damage types follow, with examples to help a GM assign a damage type to a new effect.
Acid. The corrosive spray of a black dragon’s breath and the dissolving enzymes secreted by a black pudding deal acid damage.
Bludgeoning. Blunt force attacks—hammers, falling, constriction, and the like—deal bludgeoning damage.
Cold. The infernal chill radiating from an ice devil’s spear and the frigid blast of a white dragon’s breath deal cold damage.
Fire. Red dragons breathe fire, and many spells conjure flames to deal fire damage.
Force. Force is pure magical energy focused into a damaging form. Most effects that deal force damage are spells, including magic missile and spiritual weapon.
Lightning. A lightning bolt spell and a blue dragon’s breath deal lightning damage.
Necrotic. Necrotic damage, dealt by certain undead and a spell such as chill touch, withers matter and even the soul.
Piercing. Puncturing and impaling attacks, including spears and monsters’ bites,
deal piercing damage.
Poison. Venomous stings and the toxic gas of a green dragon’s breath deal poison damage.
Psychic. Mental abilities such as a mind flayer’s psionic blast deal psychic damage.
Radiant. Radiant damage, dealt by a cleric’s flame strike spell or an angel’s smiting weapon, sears the flesh like fire and overloads the spirit with power.
Slashing. Swords, axes, and monsters’ claws deal slashing damage.
Thunder. A concussive burst of sound, such as the effect of the thunderwave spell, deals thunder damage.






Ahoy hoy.

Someone asked about elements and what not in my DMs a while back. Basically, some ideas get lost in translation, so Ziggy shall elaborate.

Long, long ago, in a canon far away, before we knew much of anything, Maruyama, in his infinite wisdom decided to just info dump a whole chapter on the basics of magic. Obviously this all got mostly cut for the LN because RNJesus. There was an interesting meta magic though, never heard from again in this time before petite posteriors: Magic Attribute Alteration meta magic. How strange.

Now, Maru loves to retroactively reference the Web Novel in subtle ways (WN only bois appearing in Mass for the Dead) and so on. But, this meta magic has literally never been seen since 2010. Sasuga Maruyama-san. Now retcons exist. Yuri's Monk [Ki Detection] is now semi-universal to all beings in terms of estimating power levels even among

"It just got retconned"



...........Is what some may think. Ziggy's here to drop some knowledge on you all.

So first, what the fuck is an Attribute?

An Attribute(Zokusei) is also read as property. It's effectively damaging typing, but it's not just say elemental types or damage types. It gets a bit autistic but that's why Ziggy lives and breathes!

Attributes are.... weird.

Now normally you'd think:

"It's just elements and stuff right?"

Spells like [Lesser Protection - Energy](V3) is written as "[Lower ATTRIBUTE Defense ]".
Attribute = Energy. CAse closed.


....Right?

As you can surmise from my antics, sadly Maru is oddly nuanced about all this, and naturally you all lost details in translation. Basically any energy protection spell [Protection from Energy YYYY] or [Energy Immunity ZZZZ] is specifying an Attribute to resist or negate. But Attributes are not just energy types.

For instance, [True Dark] is special because it lets you use Darkness without any Darkness Attribute tagged on the spell.


Attributes in Overlord:

For you kids in the know, Attributes in Overlord would be Descriptors or Domains sort of bundled together.
The descriptors are acid Y, air Y, chaotic, cold Y, darknessY, death , earth Y, electricity Y, evil Y, fear, fire Y, force Y?, good Y, language-dependent, lawful, lightY, mind-affecting, sonicY, and waterY.





Physical System
- Resist attacks up to Level 60
Strike (Ouda)
[Body of Efflugernt Beryl] Green
[Strike Weapon Weakness IV]
Slashing 
[Body of Efflugent Heliodor ] Red
 [Slashing Weapon Resistance V - ]
Piercing/Thrusting  (Shitotsu)
[Body of Efflugent Aqua Marine ] Blue
  [Piercing Weapon Resistance V - ]
Natural
[Resistance to Natural Weapons ]


[higher magic invalidation ] Tier 6 magic invalidation

Four Great Elements System 

Fire (Flame - Honoo) [Burn Lance] [Fire Storm] [Summon Primal Fire Elemental ] [Vermillion Nova]?
Holocaust Scripture
[Napalm ]
[Fire Rain ] - Divine
[Fire Storm ] - Divine
        Hellfire? 
            [Hell Flame ]
            [Hellfire Wall ] Deals fire damage but does no physical damage? (Fire that bypasses physical defenses?)

Wind "Air"  [Summon  Primal Air Elemental ] [Elementalist(Air)]
Windflower Scripture -
       Lightning  or (Electricity Kaminari Dengeki) [Shock Lance] [Call Greater Thunder] [Electrosphere ] [Lightning Sphere ][Lightning ] [Lightning Nullification ]
[Lightning Spear ] Single target [Lightning]?
Water  [Summon Primal Water Elemental ]
Clear Water Scriptrue
       Ice    (Cold - Reiki) [Iceball - ] [Freeze Lance -   ]
           [Polar Claw ] Strongest Ice
           [Piercing Icicle ]
                  Ainz's resistance and Frost Dragon Breath
Earth  [Elementalist (Earth)] [Crack in the Ground]
      Acid  (San)[Five Colored Holy Sword], [Mist of Super Acid  [Acid Nullification ]
      Poison,  Anti Living Creature; Natural Weapon Acid sort of.
     Gravity, 
           [Gravity Maelstorm ]
           [Reverse Gravity ]
      Gem(Houseki),
          Crystal   (suishou)  (Strike(ouda)+Pie   rcing(Shitotsu)) = Purely Physical
                 [Crystal Lance]
                 [Crystal Dagger ]
                 [Crystal Wall ]
                 [Crystal Shield ]
                 [Shard Buckshot ] 

*Sonic (Onpa) [Five Colored Holy Sword]




( Nuclear  appears to be a composite of  Fire and Strike - )



Spiritual
Spiritual System 5 Elements Dichotomy Yin  (Negates Yang)
Yang (Negates Yin)
 

Other 
    Divine Protection
Holy (Hijiri - same Kanji in Holy Kingdom's name)
[Power channeled by Paladins? - ]
 [Paladin  (Hijiri Kishi)]
Holy Flame (Holy + Fire  )
[Holy Ray ]
[Evil Slayer ] Good at defeating Evil creatures - Paladin Prestige class
[Sacred Archer   Paladin with bow
[Final Holy War ]
Karma based Selective energy (harms Evil and Neutral not Good)
Unholy  Knights 
[Dark Knight  (Ankoku)]
Darkness?  (Ankoku)
     - "Dark Ritual Mastery"; bolsters Create Undead (modular daily summoning) 

Holy and Unholy may just be Good and Evil

Karma Related         [Conflict Karma - ]
Zen  ( Good) [Holy Smite [Armageddon - Good] [Holy Aura - ]
     [Holy Smite] is described as a spell that is "more effective on those inclined toward Evil"
      Similarly Ainz mentions Angels are more difficult to deal with than Demons
     [Summon Angel - ] "heaven'
     [Holy Aura - Good Aura] is said to only affect those with an Evil Attribute
(Neutral)
Waru  (Evil)
[Armageddon -Evil ]
 [Anti Evil Protection ]
       ["Living" Sacrifice - ]   Lowers karma with black mist effect


Shinsei  (Shinsei Kami+Hijiri sacred attribute)
[Protection from Magic - Sacred ]
[Shinsei Attribute Area Ability Score Penalty Ⅱ]
[Shinsei Attack Weakness IV ]
[Amatarsu][Tsukiyomi]
[Holy Light ] Divine system; Damages all evil enemies
[Brilliant Radiance - ] Wraps in light and deals Shinsei damages 
         Heavenly?
            
 [Uriel'] a flame spell whose damage scales with user's karma is written as 神炎. 
*Equipment  Ainz used to face Shalltear
 warded against Shinsei



"Animating Energy"
Negative  (presumably drains living creature Hp ; heals undead - )
     [Negative Burst ]
     [Ray of Negative Energy ] Damages living heals undead
                    [Undying Flame ] Flame + Negative Energy
                          [Summon Undead]
                           [Create Undead ]  (Spell); originally called in WN
     [Protection Energy - Negative ]
     Doom Lord's unnamed Negative Energy skill
     Elder lich's [Negative Touch - ]
Positive (Sei) - healing magic
[Positive Attribute Area Ability Score Penalty ]
Healing based Selective Energy (harms one type, heals another)
Life Force/Animating Force     - Pure HP
[Regenerate - ] Heals undead and living 
[Life Essence ] Measures (Hp) 

 Uncategorized



Sun  (Effectively Radiant Damage from 4E?)
[Shining Burst - ]  Lower karma more damage to undead and evil. Positive karma lowers damage
     [Sunlight ] Damages Undead AND Blinds
     ["Solar Explosion "]  Unavoidable boss skill with fire properties
    [Sunlight Vampire Movement penalty]

Light? 
 [Light Attack Weakness IV]
     God of Light  in Slaine is also God of Life  (Sun light Scripture)
   [Flash - ] Tempoarily blinds

Darkness? 
[Jet Black Scripture - ] Written with  or Black/Darkness.
God of Death is God of Darkness
[Dark Hole ]
Non Attribute Darkness exists -
 
Moon
[Summon Moon Wolf ]
[Veil of Moon ]  Considerably lowers magic damage; no physical properties; shines in seven colors
[Moon Sword  a skill caused by using four Elements together - ignores land and aerial safe zones?  

Time    No confirmed spells (but presumably [Time Stop ] or [Frost of Judacca]; Basically stasis related abilities that work on even nonliving creatures or objects(remember Time stop even prevents damage)
    [ Time Retrogradation - ] Reverses damage state (hp bar) 3 times a day
    [Temporal Stasis - ] Immobilizes but prevents damage on one target

Star   hoshi   [Primal Star Elemental ]
  [Astral Smite - ]
  [Saturn's Great Meteor - ]  "Earth + Star"
  [Mercury Ore - ] "Water + Star" Reduce damage to 1/10
  [Venus Torrential Rain - ]  "Metal + Star"  Acid Rain
[Neptune - ]  "Sea King' Star" Cold-like damage and movement debuff
    Only Primal Elemental denoted differently (missing a kanji)
[Wish Upon A Star
   Is Star  a composite of Sun+Moon+Time?
        Sun, Moon, and Time Elementals are never described as of yet...
         Fire, Water, Wind, and Earth are described as part of  a FOUR elemental system



Non-Attribute
([Magic Arrow ]  Attributeless
[Explode Mine ]
[True Dark 無闇] Attributeless Dark
[Lesser Protection Energy - ] Decreaes all Attribute damage?
[Drifting Master Mine )?

Force?
[Shockwave ]
[Field of Force - ]
[Force Explosion - ]
[Force Sanctuary -]

Miscellaneous Attributes

Silver  (Gin)  [Silver Lance - ]
Blood 

[Weird Japanese Theories 11- God Emperor]

Quick and simple today.

Some Japanese fans theorize "Divine Dragon ", who faced the 13 Heroes  is the "Dragon Emperor", Tsa's "Daddy".

Now, the two titles are different of course - 

(Divine) God Dragon 神竜.

Dragon Emperor 竜帝

But,  there is evidence to back up this theory:


Evidence 0

Tsa is the strongest 'Dragon Lord' but the 13 Heroes supposedly lost to the 'God Dragon' (Volume7,10)
Dragon Emperor is at least as strong as Cure Elim (Twitter)


Evidence 1

Dragon  帝 NOT Dragon 皇帝


"Emperor" is written very strangely for the "Dragon Emperor". It doesn't use Jircniv's title皇帝, but 帝 alone.
So there should be a reason why .

Evidence 2

Some Dragon Lord titles actually depend on Chinese readings or Kanji.



朽棺
No Japanese equivalent for first Kanji- Maru Elder Coffin
First Kanji is Chinese only

白金
Silver in Japanese  - Maru Platinum
Is always read as Platinum in Chinese

七彩
Seven Colors - Maru: Brightness
Second kanji read as "bright colors"; Chinese only

So the precedence exists that the Dragon Emperor's title can have a closer relation to it's true meaning if read in Chinese not Japanese.

Evidence 3


Dragons can change name following power up (XX to Elder Coffin)

Cure Elim established precedence that Dragon Lords can gain additional titles by their own desire. 

Evidence 4

The Chinese Kanji 'Emperor' can also mean 'Supreme Deity' in Tian or Shang theology.



Evidence 5

神 is not always read "God" in Overlord.

5a: Godkin
神人
Literal: "Godlike Person" " Person as Strong as a God"
In Overlord: "Awakened human"


5b: Divine class
神器（ゴッズ）
Maru says to read it as "God" but literally it's written "Godly Instrument" or "Sacred Treasure"
and not just 神 alone.



Putting it Together:

(Divine) God Dragon 神竜.

Dragon Emperor 竜帝
 Basically, even if the Dragon Empire is gone, the Dragon Emperor can still be called the Dragon Emperor 竜帝because it can be read as "Supreme Being Dragon" or more accurately "Dragon Deity".  That or Auto Translate fucked up, and people who remember dragon lords pronounce it 竜帝, but for people who only hear about it second hand ie in bard songs about the 13 Heroes it more accurately translates as God Dragon 神竜.

 This isn't so batshit if you consider 王 in China serve the 帝, where Chinese Dragon 王 are considered God Dragons, but the "Emperor" they serve is considered 'Supreme' and greater than them in power and scope.






Counter Arguements:

A

Not all Dragon Lords actually have Chinese readings associated with their titles.

DDDL
常闇

Vampire DL
吸血
Chinese - Blood Sucking
or Avenging

Calamity
破滅の竜王
災厄
 Chinese Annhilation
Distressed

All of these are Japanese only readings with no Chinese reading nuance. .

B

God Dragon 神竜 can be what all Dragon Lords used to call themself ala Chinese reading of Dragon Lord but because of auto translate or whatever reason Cure Elim's title is censored, it comes out as Dragon Lord. But since Bards "'Sing' auto translate doesn't distort the nuance.


This is supported because Dragon Lords actually do not have a 'Lord' class.


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Pretty weird right?

I actually really like this idea the 'violation' of the world is mirrored in how Dragon Grammar gets butchered. Like why Dragons use the = or Double Hyphen instead of ･ for every other race's name given and family name.

Probably not definite theory, but does thematically fit the linguistic themes in Overlord. And gives some explanation for what the hell the God Dragon is that isn't just "Dragon Emperor is God Dragon".



竜帝の汚物